This is issues 2013. I Steve Macintosh our guest is bill Roy editor of the Wichita business journal. Welcome to issue Tony thirteen thanks thanks for having me appreciate the -- loads to local business updates daily on the Stephen -- morning show here on K and necessity he also does a daily update on Kate TV. We're gonna talk about the your multi media talents in a -- this but I don't know if you -- -- -- -- But first tell little bit about the blow which stop business journal how long has it been published -- talks that started on saint. -- today back in 1986. There was -- Kansas City business journals and there a couple businessman there who who created that dismissed colonel. They see also did some business one of -- did business in Wichita and he thought the Wichita would be a good place. For business journal. Get started on like a -- -- they have 86. And it's been going strong ever sent -- a lot of people are surprised where the smallest market and then in the name American city business journal chain. Panda so we've just been found along all those years. Do wish to -- his journal as you -- large part of a larger company and tell a little bit more about the parent company if you. American city business journals is located in Charlotte, North Carolina. There was a group of ten business journals including Wichita Kansas City. That's how they started this change started and it was hold. That one point two guy named ray Shaw Rey was she got from Oklahoma who work for the Associated Press. Later went on to Dow Jones and was president of down Jones -- Wall Street Journal. Brady retired on Friday from Dow Jones and on Monday bought the chain. American city business journals. And now located them in Charlotte, North Carolina we've now grown to forty markets across the country in which caused the smallest. Our parent company above that is advance publications. You may recognize the new house family names sign in the house. And that group that -- removed it gentlemen's quarterly GOLF Magazine those big publications. So heavily. Which -- or how many business journals are there there there are forty in. Almost all throughout the United States. That actually produce papers and do everything that we do. We also -- -- to three additional markets that we've we've joined the three largest markets in the country LA Chicago and New York they don't put out papers that they do. Do they have a staff and they they have a website now here in Wichita to how many people do you employ. We've got about sixteen employees here I've got. 87 arraigned on my staff actually seven now my managing editors heading south to Oklahoma -- to be in charge of there. Student media at the University of Oklahoma Nick Young when he's sitting down there but I've got three reporters. Our research literature. -- me. Graphics editor who puts the paper together each week and my digital editor who is in charge of everything we do as far as. The web side -- social media and those are those things become so much more important to us these last few years to -- you -- you have your next question how many people are responsible for the editorial comment. Yeah now here's your chance -- good group. I have a great crew. We -- all -- talk about my editor's first Emily Delmon that came to me from Garden City telegram the paper out there. She had. Had some experience on the web doing digital. Journalism. And putting together some of their website at Garden City and she's done a great job for us really bend. She's young person who has a lot of energy knows a lot about digital media web sites and social media that type of thing. -- Houston's been with us for a long time he's -- my research editor and now he's in charge of putting together the paper designing the paper. We have Stephanie -- who is a which at times she went up to Kansas City were for publication out -- came back she's in charge of pre surge and she's the one. Who puts together all our top 25 list that we're known for. And I have my you have reporters. Josh Haq is a guy from actually grew up here in Wichita valley center want to -- K state. He is in charge reporting on health care education and energy on our reporters have multiple -- that they have to watch out for. Daniels from a quarry the Clearwater native and he's in charge. Aviation. In charge of manufacturing. He's obviously very busy and then I had John Stearns John came to us from Bend, Oregon. He's store that they Arizona Republic he's been an editor and reporter. He's got he's busy as well with commercial real estate. We have residential real estate with him also banking downtown development and economic development the does -- staff. Well and -- there was a time when in television radio newspapers when we had enough people. Working that for each person had their own beat rights rights they might cover two that's -- -- courts. So many wood covers the city and county bright and so you didn't anymore though you've got to cover several beats everybody that's -- Everybody's doing more with less these days especially since 2008 a meltdown on. How the economy's gone we're of course glad to have jobs at this point and especially in journalism but. You know everybody's having to do more with less than nine brandish really proud of my staff has been working so hard over these last few years how long have you been -- the journal. Ten years actually eleven years I've been editor for ten. In September I would I celebrated eleven years there. It's hard to believe. Don't -- talk a little bit more about what you did before that. If you did have a life before. In just a moment that. You know it is in plenty local business news to cover every dancer -- gets a little thing in the what -- your biggest challenge you think in reporting about local business bill I think it -- because of the reporters and you have so much going on you know there were a company that doesn't you know we used to just put out paper. And of course then came the website and we do that and and now we've got events all sorts of different things. It's keeping up on what's going on the big stories that are going on in the which -- area. You know those reporters have to make so many calls today and they are working all -- sources to try to gets. Ideas for stories and make sure we're on top of things and you're right you know we think our competition has -- the rest of the local media and a lot of times Sheehan are even that's print. Product the eagle and they've got 11 meet -- -- and we're trying to do is keep up for this new three or four. Interest in because I think that's. There's some changes coming over there as well yeah absolutely Arnold and industry has changed at the same pressure that is in it -- just few years ago that I could be on the radio. And I did not to have Derek did was not called upon to help out with that. With the a -- product the web page exactly so result sort of do one thing in specialize Clinton do really well. And now we have to -- 84 things really well and in in the funny thing is a strange thing is I don't think people know there's a lot of people. It takes time to do. Oh absolutely it did you just sit down and say -- nine and I -- like a book that you in this Twitter whatever price did write a story and cut and paste I graphics and everything you daddy can't you can't. Always tell stories and -- 140 characters you've got set. You gotta sit down and you guys especially you know when we do long form pieces in the business journal on Friday is she another we have our cover stories that we do those are deeper dives into what's going on. Those take time to produce says sometimes a month month and a -- to produce now. What's your season there what you see there sometimes and you know the media what you hear RC MTV sometimes there's a lot of work goes into that. Twenty or thirty seconds or four paragraphs or whatever that are absolutely -- on and but the I died I love radio because. You know most of the time. -- -- you know you're out there you during the reporting in turner around you producing -- on the air. And then some of the other media TV it takes you know dozens of people to get things on the air and -- -- -- -- yeah. Now are you ever challenged -- -- content and I'm thinking your about it ever accused of taking a slant on the news. Well well yeah there. There are some. Who expect us because we're a business publication. Well that's that's not our job we're journalists were not in our -- putting out press releases and advertising we're putting out news stories. And so it is it is difficult sometimes to. You know we know all these people personally we want to businesses to succeed that's part of our mission is to provide businesses intelligence information they can use. To grow their businesses to grow the growth of the economy. But we also have to tell tell like idiots because if you sugarcoat things or a feud you know try to be a cheerleader sometimes that's not the best information to -- when you're making amends. Business as we hear from people in our -- listeners -- -- in your -- readers who is city. That I just don't understand that didn't more than received you can grow and change you'd better is if people point out. Hey there's something wrong there absolutely you know you talk to business -- you talked to political leaders. You know they don't need to hell yes man they don't need you people who don't pay -- doing great if you're not doing great you need to know that hand. You know for not doing great as a paper I sure hear about it you know if we if we mess up on a story I sure hear about it then I'll just say well that's that's OK I mean that it makes a difference -- what people are doing -- -- You know you have to tell the truth you have to to seek out the truth as much as possible and that's how we get better information we can move forward and and prosper do you think media in general is just kind of a mystery to most people. Yes absolutely absolutely you know it's. Can they turn on the radio that listened to Stephen said they listened to your public affairs programming and now they they they hear what do what people are saying and that helps this is more along from -- type of reform. But a lot of times it is a mystery to them you know -- the you know take a market like Wichita where you had people coming in and out of the market especially in TV. Com to get to know somebody and and sometimes those reporters don't have a stake in what's going on here in the Wichita area and so they come here they wanna put together an audition tape and get out. She's a few of -- now not many but it down insular community just. They do something really stupid but because of it -- something to write it and -- -- today of course not. We have I've been here since 88 you've been here all your life and and we've seen those folks come and go but we have a vested interest in our community and how things are going and we've got to tell that. Tell the truth and I am him. We want people to succeed but we also want to get the best information out there are some people can make decision to -- you know sometimes journalists do get something wrong in fact true effect here there when bush is a journal -- and a mistake is made well first of all we acknowledge that we we checked to make sure that yes it was a mistake. We do our do our research on the back can and if it was a mistake we own up to that immediately. We try to corrected immediately. You know we have the print product that's you know once its credit once it gets out of the out of the printer and onto the streets there's not much you can do about that but. We also have a product that's on the web we will make corrections on the web we will make corrections and social media on our FaceBook page and Twitter Google+ Linkedin. Wherever that story. Appeared we wanna make sure that if we made a mistake. We will we will corrected as quickly as possible and then we have a correction section in the next week's paper does editorial. Work well with the advertising and marketing people. I'll tell you that. Sometimes there's a rift there can be yeah now I. I've -- -- Internet radio and I remember times and radio you know where you have people coming to you wanting you to do stuff that that maybe benefits -- local business and you got. I can't do that I'm on the journalism side things. But. Especially in our -- I can't speak for other other companies but in our company we've really had to. Take a look at our operations and work more and communicate more. With the advertising side we've got to three or four people who work in our advertising -- audience develop a circulation that sort of thing. We've all got a stake in the success of the company and so we've all got to work together to be able to. Find that success. You're listening to issues Tony thirteen on the Entercom radio stations and -- guest is bill -- editor of the Wichita business journal. We mentioned earlier. That you work in print radio and television. Bill tell us about your involvement with the Internet product to the web page how much do you get involved and. I get involved when I read I read stories that go on the web page in my managing editor reads those stories Saddam. I write. For the website I'll write a blog occasionally not as much as side I used to because there's so many things going on the open divert my attention that. I try to ride as much as possible -- things are going on the Wichita area I have I oversee. I'm basically in my position in charge of all editorial content for the Wichita business journal. Across all our platforms whether it's social media or the web -- appropriate. And so I'm kind of got my fingers and everything that's a lot of Reading you have to do it. -- -- that's why my eyes are going quick -- you could just all there always staring at them. Monitor the first six go to. Quite a change -- the past few years for people like us and you mention that a little bit -- earlier appearing on several media platforms every day do you talk with other people who are doing this -- -- It is it's amazing that they it's like hey everybody it's pretty much do some. Lawrence warns of more doubt that I am and really the trick is for people who are. Managing others is to really manage that process is to figure out OK how do we. Asked our reporters and our editors ourselves to do more. And still do it. -- -- High quality high expectations and it's not driver sells crazy not work. 809000. Hours a week it's difficult continue to absolutely absolutely and you have to manage a process and I think mainly instant. Making sure you understand how to use the tools and how to create a system that's efficient and and you're right it it. It which it's just hard work no matter how you got. Let's talk a little bit about the bigger picture let's talk about the local economy much what do you think is -- the big story today this week this month this year even well you know I. Aviation obviously is is something that we watch all the time. That's so important the Woodstock economy even though we talk about diversification. There are so many. Companies that depend on aviation and the manufacturers. The vendors and those are those companies that feed it. Spirit Aerosystems Cessna beach for Marty it Lear jets. There are some of the companies that feed into that. That it's it's just incredibly important we didn't have Mike Pompeo the congressman. Who was able to get these small aircraft and -- revitalization act passed. Com and they're hoping that that creates more jobs but beyond aviation it is important our economy -- beyond that health care where is so important to the Woodstock economy. Yeah and now we have the Affordable Care Act what's going to go long. But the exchanges what's going to go on with Medicare reimbursement. All those questions people have been there and then it's it's interesting the thing we hear most from business people. In Wichita. Is that date it's tough to know what's going to happen the uncertainty. And what's going to happen. Is the one thing that hinders them being able to grow him and prosper. This thing if they know what's gonna go on if they know what congress is going to do that they know what the state legislature going to deal in the compliance but if they don't know. -- they're kind of been an -- Don't want to yeah. And in just the uncertainty now. A -- talk about may employment unemployment can deal with this. Quote recession that is now recovering right just a very sluggish recovery unit to in terms of employment and jobs that. You know what are we five point six in which -- -- polite veteran player that's not far from what was once considered full employment -- -- three to 4% jobless rate. Right that is consider full employment down to three -- 3% range. What's what we're also looking at those the other side of that is that there are fewer people who are in the workforce he dropped out exactly yup that's a big concern there just. There either collecting disability they're not really in the workforce or today had just kind of given up on their contract and -- logon as soon as well as they can. You know they're just fewer people who were in the workforce and that's that's something that we're gonna have to overcome you look at the true unemployment rates some some people say nationwide it's around 10% 11% that's run millions of people at a job pretty close to depression apple and bluntly absolutely. What do you think about it what are your views on the state economy if you have any one of these taxes and so forth on the state communal. Our governor and Sam Brownback is did. You know he and it -- and the EST legislature and does a pretty dramatic things absolutely involving income tax and so forth. It's we've been watching that as much as we can try to watch as those same revenues come in some of the revenues have been lower than expected. Com. We're looking for the trickle down at this point we're looking at the evidence that those tax cuts. Half of created a situation where business people feel like they can expand to feel like they can invest more money in their companies. And I am not sure we're seeing that yet. For two years down the road and basically we're coming up on another legislative session here in man in next month I guess yeah. And so we'll see you. I don't think we're seeing the payoffs he gets. That it doesn't appear like they did there is a frightening and feeling it may be. My lowering income taxes and property taxes laps I was gonna have to go up to make up the difference right that's -- concern and that's you know led the idea that if you or taxes those business people are going to invest they're going to stimulate the economy marred by hiring more people have more jobs in that way. More revenue will come -- I guess then on other overseeing that yet. Do you think -- local economy is I'm gonna improve dramatically over the next couple years not dramatically since he -- -- -- Navy okay now the futures are little and -- -- is all starting. We had a briefing from -- bill griner who is let's say UMB in Kansas City and he was giving a sense that an idea of the economy. And he called it the long and hard slaw and got wow. -- out and pretty -- was true back in LA don't mind -- and I think it's still true that we shall we see we see some indications that the economy locally is getting a little bit better but. It's just still so slow. That we need -- to break it break it open that was one of the things governors said that the his tax breaks want to do. His -- a shot in the arm alone we haven't seen that shot in the arm yet we're still looking for a man who were put the shot the wrong place -- But it shouldn't be here. Blamed the may need more of a jolt one take a little time here just -- briefly if you do a lot of things with honoring. Forty under forty things like ten days. County Lucy you do having basically want a -- and I did we used to do we were talking about that the other day you know we used but I had a paper. Now we used to do maybe three or four. Events say a year now we're doing one almost each month. We're not doing them just to give them we think they're important right yes forty under forty is that she and we started chief financial officers we believe they deserve recognition. Human resource officers we think they deserve recognition for there. -- parts and in being -- Players in the success is of their companies. Two -- Jose it's great for your company but again. Behind the scenes folks that takes a lot of time and a lot of work a lot of a lot of my job you know I've had a managing editor who has he's also the print editor he's been the only kind of oversee what what we do each week. In the print paper but. Man it that my job has changed dramatically over the last 2 years because I am CR events I write the scripts for our events and help put them together and it's really is really a challenge you guys did about a 445 assistance. Have them do all the work I tried. A work on that you ever get tired. And it figured yeah that's right okay. -- talk a little bit here to review the show about your career now where did you grow up and and how did you could start the media group in Kansas City in. I had an older brother he was about thirteen fourteen when I was born. And my brother went to Vietnam came back and he was looking for work and and he's kind of a cut up and so. He was in radio he was a DJ for awhile and I went and visited him heard him on the radio -- thought that is really cool couldn't believe you know that. I'm driving in the car and I hear him on a commercial that's his voice coming out there -- -- in Kansas City it was in Colorado actually it was and they. Outside a Denver man so I got me interest in radio and and I and K state I started in and instant news and really enjoyed journalism so. Got my journalism degree from K state went back to Kansas City. I worked there for a little bit went out in Garden City worked there for about a year and a half. Back to Kansas City and then down to Wichita working for the guys up the dial a little bit you know and then -- and -- state. Yeah for today after your home well I you know I'm. I was of course she's now on 26 year old guy who probably in Wichita offer maybe a couple of years and then I'll get my big break on the city Chicago Atlanta. I'll be in New York she had the but -- After four years my wife and I decided to buy a house and and we've been here ever since and then -- in Wichita out after after the folks at the radio -- -- went over to the Wichita eagle I was there for three years -- channel twelve I was there for about five years. It was at a private company for about six months and -- not there -- and it was sold to some folks in Dallas and then I got a chance to work again and Jim cross who was the editor at the Bridgestone does an external at the time he hired me is is managing editor he left after awhile now and I -- -- gotten his play. So I don't want to you know I don't want to disturb your pertaining telling you this -- running out of places to work it. I tell people I've been kicked out every newsroom in -- But that's just a disclaimer. Do you deny at and along with our friend Ted Woodward are. And some other media cronies get together every now and then we have lunches together and compare notes -- -- -- I -- -- my face hurts from laughing so much we have such good time you get to people together third from radio and then if you do you and then you get the other foolish if they know each other -- And it just relax him -- time it can be a write the story -- we've all have those stories there there are no. More interesting characters are probably than in the radio business radio it just seems to add to -- us for supper I worked with guys now that had been imprison me now Kraft have to. Not me. Thanks bill we appreciate your bank GMAC preeminent and that's all for this edition of issues Tony thirteen our guest. Editor bill Roy the would stop this is careful course will be back next week thank you for listing -- Steve Macintosh.